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@youth said:

Bethesda owns the .esp file format.
They can legally dictate how their format is spread and whether people are allowed to make money from it.

 Ahah. Now that's an interesting approach in solving this matter :D


@snakebaby82 said:

Sometimes I fantasize about Bethesda releasing Oblivion or Morrowind as digital downloads on current-gen consoles, but running at 1080p/60fps... what a dream

 I would gladly pay full price for 64-bit, DirectX 11 versions of both Morrowind and Oblivion. I can imagine it would have huge benefits for resource-hungry mods like Oblivion's Better Cities or Morrowind's Tamriel Rebuilt.  It might also open up the possibility of console modding for those games as well. I seriously doubt this will ever happen...but, then, I once insisted, categorically, that Bethesda would never remaster a game. So who knows?  ;)


Chimer who orphaned themselves from the Velothi Exodites, but remain Chimer today, large numbers of Ayleids showed more interest in the immediate earthly needs of agriculture rather than the magical needs of concept-farming. This distinction becomes important later, when "Ayleid" begins to designate other, and ofttimes foreign, agencies." 

We also have reference earlier in this work that Numidium was an instrument of anti-creation. 

I think, perhaps, the most important thing we need to consider is the origin and purpose of the Dwemer. They, like all mer, arose from the Aldmer. The Aldmer were the descendants of those who had watched Auriel depart 'so that they could watch and find the way to do it themselves' (paraphrase). The various races of mer all sought various ways of replicated Auriel's departure so that they too could attain divinity. The Ayleids constructed their own tower, White Gold, and borrowed from the Daedra to do it. The Altmer seem to be preoccupied with the notion of undoing creation in its entirety (presumably) and hope to deactivate the towers. The Dwemer sought a different approach, looking downward rather than outward, and studied creation itself to learn how to undo it in a more controlled manner. Perhaps discovering the heart of Lorkhan was a great stroke of good fortune, but it's more likely they sought it out intentionally. It's sometimes presented like they just happened upon it, but I think they went to Vvardenfell specifically with the goal of locating and studying it. 

The Dwemer, I think, were looking for a way to follow in the steps of Auriel and return to the divine.

I think they succeeded. 

The document mentioned in a previous post does bring out an important point: Numidium stayed behind. The Dwemer apparently intended for others to follow them, but were thwarted by the Tribunal, or more specifically by Azura who perhaps had more selfish motives in ensuring that mortals retained their mortality. To the dunmer the Dwemer were heretics. This is largely because to their own gods, the dwemer were a threat. IT is elsewhere mentioned that it is wrong to think the Dwmer were not pious or devoted. I think, rather, they revered the Aedra, and honored them. It was not blasphemy to them to not worship them in the same way as other mer, but they rather paid them the highest honor by attempting to return to them. They were their children, returning home. 

I summary, My own personal conclusion is Kagrenac succeeded. The Dwemer were not destroyed, but were 'un-created' in the sense of the TES universe. This is a universe where creation is the result of the death of the Gods, who sacrificed themselves so that the world could exist, but where a few of these gods who had a part in it chose to 'uncreate' or withdraw from the Mundus. The Dwemer were the only race of mer that has come to our knowledge that succeeded in the goal they all share: to return to the divine. In order to do this, their physical forms had to be destroyed, turned to dust (or ash) so that they could transcend this reality. I don't know if they achieved CHIM or not. They may have returned to the state of primordial existance, or perhaps they merely departed from Mundus and went to Aetherius. But I think they did not fail to attain a divine state. It's an important point that Vivec refers to Numidium as a 'walking star'. Remember waht stars are, holes torn in the Mundus by the et'Ada that departed for Aetherius. To refer to Numidium in this way, I think, suggests that the Dwemer followed them. I don't think they attained CHIM, because I don't think that was their goal. I think they followed Auriel. 

There is one fatal flaw in the idea that the Dwemer had immortality already, but it could be excused fairly easily. Yagrum Bagarn never mentions this. He in fact seems to suggest the contrary. He suggests they were not immortal, by postulating that Kagrenac succeeded in granting them immortality, but accidentally may have banished them to an outer realm. Of course you could attribute this to his failing memory, but something like being immortal and god-like (assuming the author thinks the Dwemer may have been linked to the heart in the same manner as the Tribunal) seems like something you wouldn't forget.